Dude, way too deep for 99.9% of all JWs. No way they understand any of those things. Remember, if it’s not in the Watchtower, it’s the wrong interpretation.
Anony Mous
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Governing Body NOT going to heaven!
by BoogerMan inthe jw memorial takes place in 5 weeks time, and kh meetings resume on april 1st.. the worldwide campaign for spectators will kick off soon, so here are 3 questions to help jw's see the org's myth that their g.b.
is going to be amongst a crowd of 144,001 melchizedek king/priests in heaven.. 1) a ransom only buys back what has been lost, so what exactly did adam lose?.
2) how can jesus' ransom correspond with what adam lost, if it buys back far more than what was lost?.
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Peak Cancel Culture
by Simon inwe seemed to have reached peak cancel-culture.
now, we get to try to cancel the citizens of an entire country for something their government chose to do.. really, we can't allow russian individuals to compete in sports?
to live a life?.
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@TheListener: Not entirely true, it swings back and forth, children will almost always be the opposite of the parents.
People in the 70s-90s were more conservative than their hippie parents, so we get a few years where even the left (eg. Clinton) have to be careful about taxes and spending. Their kids however are the woke that blame their parents' generation for all their problems and want increased taxes and spending. Kids that are now growing up and getting into their 16s-20s are very much opposed to the control 'their parents' are exercising over 'their Internet'. So you see a swing back into privacy and 75% of people under 30 own at least some cryptocurrencies and 25% of millionaires in that age bracket in the US became millionaires due to crypto, which is regulation-proof.
What we do see is a bigger swing and divide every generation though, until the thing collapses which is a real threat the government will face in the next 25-50 years when the majority of transactions are going to be done in a fashion that cannot be regulated or taxed. That is going to severely hurt the by-then-older people that fought their whole lives to live on government handouts. So I can see a future where anyone under 30 no longer contributes to the tax base, the people living on government benefits will starve, and starving people will fight wars to improve their plight (see Russia and China)
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WATCHTOWER extracts 104 million from Trust in U.K. Plan to ditch Kingdom Halls at play??
by Terry in{brother ?, a copy of this is being passed around here in bristol, kent, london, etc.
to “certain” elders by way of heads up.
feel free to ignore it or investigate it.
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If they go full-hybrid with the meetings, I can see in the future they will consolidate even more Kingdom Hall buildings and split the remaining ones in 2 or 4 to accommodate smaller groups doing their online stuff.
And as time progresses, more and more will be pushed online, first the special meetings, then the circuit meetings, then the assemblies and then after that it will be 10-15 years further and the new generation will be used to online meetings.
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WATCHTOWER extracts 104 million from Trust in U.K. Plan to ditch Kingdom Halls at play??
by Terry in{brother ?, a copy of this is being passed around here in bristol, kent, london, etc.
to “certain” elders by way of heads up.
feel free to ignore it or investigate it.
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Anony Mous
The National Redess Taxation Scheme is in Australia, not UK. But the UK thing has been known for a while, they are basically letting all the local halls go in favor of a centralized organization. That has been a thing in the US for a long time. The paperwork is simply par for the course, I guess it's too much work to close them all properly.
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The only man in the room - Kennedy 1962
by slimboyfat inin the current situation, it’s worth listening to this podcast about nuclear near misses.
the cuban missile crisis was only one example, but is worth considering.
in 1962 the united states and russia went eyeball to eyeball over russia’s military base in cuba.
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@slimboyfat: The incident surrounding Vasily Arkhipov was not due to a command from up high, it was a commander that had gotten the idea that the US had already launched because he lost communication. This wasn't the first and definitely not the last time these things happened. There are various occasions that due to miscommunication threatened to launch a war.
There was no indication during the Cuban missile 'crisis' that the Russians would strike, putting the nukes in Cuba would have given no warning to the US had a missile strike been ordered against southern US states. So it seems insane that JFK would think they would first strike and then allowed them to put the missiles so close to home, he would have no warning when they actually did. I think both parties correctly assessed and backchanneled that neither would launch a first strike and the whole thing was just political theater in the end.
But JFK had, like Biden, no idea who or what would come after him, the fall of the Soviet Union dismantled a lot of protections in the command structure and like Biden he didn't care, as long as he had his political 'win' and could go another election (well, that was his plan at least). They don't think long-term, like China does. Hence why China doesn't want a long-term war nor a nuclear option, they, like the Soviet Union think not about winning today's battle but about winning tomorrow's war.
I think here too, there are still a lot of backchannels into Putin's organizational structure. The media isn't telling us everything, the government sure as hell isn't and Putin, like Biden is probably oblivious to the puppet masters that pull the government strings. I stand by the notion that even if Putin loses, he will not pull the trigger and if he did, there is definitely someone standing in the shadows to put a knife in his back if he truly loses it. His health is already weaker, so it'll probably blamed on that, the next president will then not admit defeat but start consolidating his forces and that will be it.
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Peak Cancel Culture
by Simon inwe seemed to have reached peak cancel-culture.
now, we get to try to cancel the citizens of an entire country for something their government chose to do.. really, we can't allow russian individuals to compete in sports?
to live a life?.
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Anony Mous
This is exactly what the left wants though, they want to JUSTIFY cancel culture. This gives them opportunity. They want to JUSTIFY higher oil prices, that's why they let Ukraine be invaded. The Biden admin won't do anything, because this war benefits him, it takes the attention away from disastrous economy and his administration.
Biden is not dumb, he's ruthless. Remember when he got Shokin fired for daring to investigate his son, he was basically threatening that he would let Russia invade in 2014 (which was effectively what $1B in military aid was earmarked to prevent) in order to get his son off the investigation.
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The only man in the room - Kennedy 1962
by slimboyfat inin the current situation, it’s worth listening to this podcast about nuclear near misses.
the cuban missile crisis was only one example, but is worth considering.
in 1962 the united states and russia went eyeball to eyeball over russia’s military base in cuba.
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Anony Mous
I think JFK royally screwed that one up though. In the end JFK practically chose for Cuba to be a terrorist dictatorship with terrible suffering for millions over the years and gave Turkey over to Islamic and particularly Iranian interests which led to the modern era of Turkey being a hellhole, Afghanistan, Iraq etc. Not only that, it lead to a massive nuclear scare, nuclear missiles off the coast of Florida means the US was permanently weakened.
There would've been no nuclear war, this is all just grandstanding, the Soviets knew they had no chance of winning any war, but they knew JFK was a weak president, they didn't do the same with Nixon or Reagan, because they knew that actions have consequences with those presidents.
Just like Russia knows they cannot win a nuclear war, China knows that would be the end of both their empires, it's all just grandstanding in the hopes that a weak US President will just give them what they want. They're basically North Korea, only bigger.
Sometimes leaders just got to tell their constituents that they have to sacrifice, that is true leadership, not cowering and letting others take both the blame and bear the results of your actions.
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Did you ever have an “Olaf” moment.
by Slidin Fast indid your class mates queue up to have sex with you?
it happened to olaf according to today’s wt.
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Not queue up. But I had a couple that wanted to. My dumb JW self rejected them. Not sure why the WTBTS would make such big deal out of it, requests for sex happen all the time amongst single teens and adults.
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JWs don’t use the apocryphal, yet source them
by Anony Mous inso a quick little note about a few things that i recently learned.
if you ever had the yellow book of bible stories, there was the story of enoch, also repeated in other watchtower publications, about the angels fathering giants and being a menace on earth.
now if you look at the nicean bible, which is the wtbts selection of the bible, it mentions enoch twice and only has a very brief passage about nephilim and ben elohim.
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JWs don’t use the apocryphal, yet source them
by Anony Mous inso a quick little note about a few things that i recently learned.
if you ever had the yellow book of bible stories, there was the story of enoch, also repeated in other watchtower publications, about the angels fathering giants and being a menace on earth.
now if you look at the nicean bible, which is the wtbts selection of the bible, it mentions enoch twice and only has a very brief passage about nephilim and ben elohim.
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@pistol: hence why I started this thread. I noticed the same several years before I even let JW and I’ve always been interested in the apocrypha. They are basically books written by contemporaries of Paul that were left out because the Catholic faith needed a single direction. But you still have Ethiopian and other Orthodox churches that do not accept the Catholic (council of Nicea) version of the Bible and include or exclude certain books from their canon. There had been an attempt in some Protestant circles to basically rewrite parts of the canon (hence why older NWTs have a few sections that are excluded from the KJV), but nobody never went as far as creating a full Bible with commentaries and “apocryphal” stories the way the Jews have the Talmud for example. Until ~1950 there also never was any real attempt by modern scholars to unite the views either theologically or archaeologically and come up with a more accurate story of the potential historical events and even the ones that are don’t see much mainstream attention.